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Haha, nice! I did the same with AV1. (I will share later. It's not entirely ready.)

Sorry I can't really help you with JavaScript, though.

On second thought, I'm not sure that quote holds relevance anymore. The art book is a few years older than the poster, and the poster doesn't have that kind of caveat. The poster really does look official...

To me, it seems that Tom had a change of heart and now consider those names "official".

Also, the quote itself is very indirect. It doesn't say that Trace came up with those names, it says that Tom Happ tried to guess the names that Trace would come up with. It's a subtle, but important difference (that I neglected earlier).

I cannot say that Trace came up with those names, because he didn't. I also don't want to add a very ugly (but accurate?) statement like "This is the name that Thomas Happ, the creator of the game, imagined that Trace would come up with." (What about the poster then?)

In such uncertainty, I'll just put a link to this thread inside the new "old name" template. If someone wants to dive deep into it, they can. But it's not too obtrusive. Let's see what happens.

There's also an artbook that came with the "multiverse edition".

(Photo credit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAke-M4gyHo)

There's also the Prima strategy guide that may have names in it. (I can't say how many are in that one because I don't have it.)

What I mean is: If a name is shared across multiple official publications (down to the exact spacing and letter casing), it most likely is canon*.

(By the way, original filenames may not always match what's on these artworks/books. As Tom said, filenames were placeholders at first. Printed material should always have more weight.)

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*Now, regarding canonicity: I do know that the artbook says the following:

"Incidentally, many of the names here are not the official names of the creatures, merely what I imagined Trace would nickname them, being a physicist and not a taxonomist."

So, what does that mean? What are the official names then? How canon are the names in the book?

To me, it just means that, in universe, "official" names have not been decided yet. If "Red Snailborg" were to get an "official" name in universe, it would need to be like: something in latin, that would sound legit (like Cyberneritimorpha rubeus) as if it had been named by a "real" taxonomist (in the lore).

The names that Trace has given can be seen as the official vernacular names of the creatures (because Trace was first to name them, and the only scientific papers documenting them were written by him).

The purpose of a wiki is to document what exists. Not leave readers wondering why the names here are different from the most frequent ones seen elsewhere.

It doesn't mean that we can't rename a creature (if the name Trace gave is really really bad). But we need a pretty solid reason to do so. I'd say: on a case by case basis, and based on these guidelines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(fauna)

If you believe a given name should differ from one given by Trace, please explain why you think so (in great detail), and one by one.

I believe that the normal behavior for a category page on a wiki is to be either empty or have a very short (one line) description of the scope of a category.

I think that having whole articles inside category pages is rather unusual, unexpected, and should be avoided. (I have never seen another wiki do that.)

Well, on one side of one of the posters of the "Axiom Verge 1 & 2 Map Poster Set" that was previously sold by Limited Run, there is a complete bestiary with official names for everything.

It would be rather convenient but unfortunately the only image of it that exists is too small to be able to read anything. I was not able to find a single video, photo or a single person who bought that thing. No Amazon or eBay listings by scalpers either.

Maybe that Demajen, the person on YouTube who made a 100% map, has one. Otherwise I don't know how he could have known that the name of the orb mini-boss in the Glacier (Breach) was Ellag.

Alternatively, we could ask the Axiom Verge subreddit. Maybe we'll be able to find someone.

If all else fails, we could always try directly asking Dan Adelman or Tom Happ for a list.